The Air Combat of 27th
.February 2019,s significance lies in the fact that two of Asia.s most
professional air arms clashed under GCI/AWACS control with clear separation of
the two forces under daylight conditions with both sets of crews thoroughly
well trained in the use of BVRs. i.e. under conditions ideal for the use of
BVRs.
What should have happened
would have been an aerial equivalent of the Battle of Midway. i.e. both sides
should have lost about three or four aircraft each- that has been what the
Brochures were promising. As usually happens the script was not followed. What
did happen was one (josh!) flea bitten pilot in a moth eaten Bison went and
downed a F 16 with a CCM and it appears he in turn was downed by the F 16’s
wing man. Some hold that the F 16 had gone into a “vertical Charlie” and when
the R 73 blew the F 16 airframe apart the MiG 21 ingested the debris. It does
not matter; There is a grim economics at work in warfare. A MiG due for the knackers’ yard in the next
couple of years downed a 4th generation jet. Unconfirmed rumour has it that “BVR
brochureitis” also suffered some combat damage.
The Pakistan Air Force is as
“cagey” as the Isr.A.F about admitting combat losses but the PAF makes it worse
by publishing “proof” which disprove their claims! This is an old habit. One
remembers “pictures” of IAF Hunters going down on flames (taken from a picture
in The Aeroplane magazine of happy memory) etc until Pushpindar Singh Chopra of
Vayu shot all that down. They were at it again. This time they published a
picture of a Hawk that crashed in Kalaikunda about two years ago. If this is the best that the ISI can do, …..!?
Kuch sharam to Karo!
They also published a picture
of some wreckage that they claimed was from a downed MiG 21/Sukhoi 30. This
piece was identified by our correspondents as a part of the F 100 engine of the
F 16. I have a wee doubt. Going only by
what I saw on TV the item is definitely a Western aircraft. Engines generally survive crashes rather better than
airframes. It is definitely a temperature resistant material. I would suggest
thinking along the lines that it is a part of the thermal heat shield they put
in between the airframe ,which can tolerate only about 400degrees K and the jet
pipe which is never below 1000 degrees K. Without the thermal barrier (my generation
would remember the “refrasil “blankets which had a “bubble pack” pattern but
similarly bright- the airframe would soften. The rectangular aperture visible
in the picture was for the stub axle of the Stabilizer and the fuel dump vent
pipe. The finish is far too good to be anything Soviet. They were using end
mills on the engine casing and that left scuff marks which dulled the finish
and later took on a patina of burnt oil! Russian high temperature materials
have a light copper sort of colour. The above is a suggestion. The finish is
far too good to be from a Soviet era aircraft or engine!
The AMRAAM missile displayed
by the Vayu Sena was interesting. It has been carefully flattened so that
journalists could read and photograph the lettering in one go but the question
is- was the BVR missile fired or simply jettisoned? If fired the skin would
have been exposed to 450 degrees centigrade for almost a minute yet the
lettering was pin sharp. Also the casing is pretty intact for something that
impacted at Mach3. So were they simply jettisoned to clean up the aircraft and
get out of trouble?
The above is plausible because at low level –“head on” the
“firing window” is strictly limited with a effective range of perhaps seven or
eight kilometer and a closing rate of 0.5 kilometers per second. The detection
range of the radar is also severely affected and hampered by terrain masking. The
work load for the crew may be just too much.
The success of the Bison was
also due to it being the simpler aircraft , which, like the Gnat,had a smaller
“wind up” time and so was able to launch and be in the right position at the
right time. It was of course very daringly flown by an obviously well trained
pilot. It is reassuring that the AF is, as always before, in great professional
hands.
The questions that arise are
i)
This was an ideal
case for the BVRs. What prevented their effective use?
ii)
The conditions of
the engagement are what we will get for most daylight hours for most of the
year. How often did our crews use their onboard radars during this engagement?
iii)
What were the
performance /positions/likelihoods of the other platforms to have scored and
what were the reasons for their (relative) lack of success?
Could it lead to
are-examination of our day fighter specifications? Any equipment not needed in
the combat is a handicap in winning that combat. The value of the February 27th
engagement is that it is a reasonable sample for analysis by the experts.
Prodyut Das
Glad you wrote on this sir. If the reports are to be believed then su-30mki had jammed several AMRAAM missiles. This indicates a few things and raises a few questions
ReplyDelete1.The current RWRs developed by DARE are good at threat warning.
2. Israeli jammers are functional considering the Israelis themselves use AMRAAM and are aware of its characteristics.
3. This raises serious doubts on the possible effectiveness of 5th gen fighters which largely depend on BVR engagements with the small number of AMRAAMSs carried internally.
4. Is the Meteor the silver bullet it is being touted as as it is equipped with a seeker technologically similar to the AMRAAM?
5. Should the IAF now try and build a force of light easy to maintain highly manoeuvrable fighters with good EW instead of expensive stealth fighters against the Chinese threat.
It may sound flippant but warplanes are a market commodity same as aTV set. TV sets are vastly over capable but mass production and a canny customer ( your wife!) keeps things in check. Your doubts at 3. and 4 are valid doubts.Unfortunately we do NOT debate but go in for the kill. It is not about who is right.These thing sshould be debated over sips of something nice with answers bubbling up from the mind rather than try to convince the other side that view A or B is the only solution! We need SU 30MKIs. WE also need a stripped down hot rod "Gun Master" kind of a fighter of limited capability and unlimited numbers.
Delete1.If we continue in the way currently we are when will we suffer defeat at chinas hands and at pak hands?
ReplyDelete2.Do we have a basic engine manf capability to power mig21 bison type a/c?
3.What exactly special in rafale which is not available in any of the other ac in the world? (other than accounting for n.fuel support from france)
4.Whether the feb incident is an aberration?
5.Mig21 in composites with lca subsystms possible with practical utility and low cost?
6.DO foreign OEMs sincerely help in kaveri program?
7.why EJ200 WAS NOT SELECTED FOR LCA PROGRAM?
8.War is the ultimate manifestation of politics. Why then a view is observed that future wars will be short and swift?
9.War equipments should be simple, cheap, effective , able to be mass produced quickly at higher rates......Whether this basic concept has undergone any change in the area of air combat?
10.Does quantity has still a quality in contemporary air combat?
11.The relevance of UCAV vs manned fighters considering drone incident in iran?
12.marut with indigenous subsystems seems to be promising concept.....why it is not pursued?
13.The economics of SAM vs fighter aircrafts, ground attack ac vs artillery or missile systems
14. how china manages spare parts for su series ac?
15.how much is lca tejas indigenous?
Raja
ReplyDeleteYou are preaching to the converted.I agree with you specially 4,5,9,10,11. About the rest only Lyutensium ( Politicians and Bureaucracy ) will know.My estimate is that the LCA is about 10% indigenous.The figures given e.g. 50% includes the labour involved which to me is evasive.
Sir IAF proved that PAF does not enjoy significant advantage over IAF in Kashmir even in case of a surprise attack. This is the message that is conveyed to PAF. I think the message is received. Tech is an issue and India has struggled to keep up. Our local manufacture has been constrained by tech for a long time. What we make has to be effective. As our industry is maturing, more local platforms are coming to the fore. But imports are still significant. However remember that overall local content is rising sharply (specially maintainability).
ReplyDeleteCorrection: We never had to struggle for technology. As the Irish say, Our people can that. What has blocked us has been Political Leadership and Politics.Dr. Saraswat revelation is no lone voice. A very knowledgeable Director Design once told me ,long ago "The Ba....ds don't want to make aeroplanes".
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